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starting in 1490 BC, is not accepted by historians. Historians do debate other aspects of the account:
*He described the Vistula Goths as having lived near the ancestors of the Gepids, who were relatives of the Goths, and lived on an island in the Vistula called Spesis. According to Jordanes, these two related groups had common origins in Scandza (Scandinavia), having come over in three boats -- one for the Gepids and two for the Goths.
*He stated that the name of the

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